Jim Fox's Ultimate Mouthpiece Comparison Chart

Bach/Schilke listed at the top for comparison.

Jim Fox has been collecting mouthpiece data for over 12 years! We hope you find his charts to be useful.

Please Note: The difference in columns can be 0.02 of an inch (0.5 mm). The measurements are done for comparison purposes of relative sizes. Attributes such as cup depth, rim shape, bite, and backbore also make a big difference in how a mouthpiece plays and feels.

Table 1
17.78 - 16.51 mm

Size in mm / Inches 17.78 mm
.700"
17.52 mm
.690"
17.27 mm
.680"
17.02 mm
.670"
16.89 mm
.665"
16.76 mm
.660"
16.64 mm
.655"
16.51 mm
.650"
Manufacturer
Bach Specs 1 1C,1.25, 1.5 2, 2C
Bach as Measured 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
Schilke 20
22 (18.03)
24 (18.29)
18
19 (17.65)

Symphony
M1, M1d
F1, D1
16, 17


Symphony
M2, M2d
F2, D2
14,
15 (17.1)

Symphony
M3, M3d
F3, D3
13C4 13B 12 11
Alliance 1 2 3, 4 5 6, 7
Best Brass Japan 1C, 3E, 5E
Greg Black 1 Series 1 1/4 Series 1 1/2 Series 3 Series
Blackburn 1 1.5 3 5
Breslmair 1CG2 Y11C
7C4
VG2S, LG1, LG2, LG3 G1, G2, G3, G4, G2S, ST 1SHP, Y12C, Y12L, E44,7G4 Y5C,Y21C
Bush WX W
Calichhio
Artist Series

C. Findely
(.676)

B. Findley
(.684)

Coassin
Davis I
Davis II
Grant I
Grant II
D Thomas

Mosello I
Mosello II
Williams

Bergeron I

Englebright Gardner
(.658)

Kadleck Scodwell
(.658)


F Szabo

Delibero (.658)

Gisbertz Harner

Johnson Michels

Nicholson

O'Donnell

Ingram
Callet 1 3C
Curry 1H (17.37)
1
1.25
1.5
2(16.9)
3
5 7
Edwards 1H
1 1/2, 3
1 1/4
2
1C99 1C98
1JC, 5
50P
7 60P
Size in mm / Inches 17.78 mm
.700"
17.52 mm
.690"
17.27 mm
.680"
17.02 mm
.670"
16.89 mm
.665"
16.76 mm
.660"
16.64 mm
.655"
16.51 mm
.650"
Bach Specs 1 1C,1.25, 1.5 2, 2C
Bach as Measured 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
GR Mouthpieces 67 66
3 Series
65
GR Haefner 1HC, X24, X27 1HX 3HC
GR Sanborn CS 67 CS 66 CS 65
Giardinelli 1 3

6

5 7
Giddings &
Webster (GW)
M1
M2, M3
Hammond 1 2 3 4 5 6
Jaz-Tec A B, C
JC Custom (new) All Styles
Their Mouthpieces
Jet Tone 1 7
Old Jet Tones 1C SS, DD, MF
Kanstal C2, C12, C15 C4 B11, B12
B15, B2
B3
B4, B5 3C B6, B7,CG3,CG7
CG Personal (.626)
Kelly Lexan 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
Klier 1
2(17.4)
3 4 5 6 7
Laskey 84 80 75, 70 68, 65 60 50
Size in mm / Inches 17.78 mm
.700"
17.52 mm
.690"
17.27 mm
.680"
17.02 mm
.670"
16.89 mm
.665"
16.76 mm
.660"
16.64 mm
.655"
16.51 mm
.650"
Bach Specs 1 1C,1.25, 1.5 2, 2C
Bach as Measured 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
Marcinkiewicz 0 A1-A3 (.692)
B1-B5 (.687)
1-4
C1-C5
E3
5-10 7PB
7PD
Milashius B1 B2 B3 A4, AV4
B4
A5, B5
Miraphone TR13
Monette (Bb) B1, B2
B3, B4
Rudy Muck 19
Northern Brass NB 65
Parduba 8 7
Reeves 43M 42M
Size in mm / Inches 17.78 mm
.700"
17.52 mm
.690"
17.27 mm
.680"
17.02 mm
.670"
16.89 mm
.665"
16.76 mm
.660"
16.64 mm
.655"
16.51 mm
.650"
Bach Specs 1 1C,1.25, 1.5 2, 2C
Bach as Measured 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
Signature Models

Roy Roman
(.715)

John Wallace

Jean Michelou

Bob Findley

Mark Gould

Manny Klien

Chuck Findley

Clark Terry
(.685)

Jeff Tyzik

Vizzutti E12

Zony

J.W. Marcinkiewicz

Herb Albert

Rick Baptist

Miles Davis

Peter Masseurs

Maynard Ferguson MF II, III

Wick Maurice Murphy

Bob Senescu

Almeida

Najoom

Rod Franks

Bobby Shew Jazz

Zaja

Rich Szabo

Graham Young

Bobby Shew
(Marc)

Leon Merian
Gold

Butcher

Macaluso

Allen Vizzutti

Bobby Shew Lead

Mike Vax

Roger Ingram

John Rinaldo

Leon Merian
(Jet Tone)

Size in mm / Inches 17.78 mm
.700"
17.52 mm
.690"
17.27 mm
.680"
17.02 mm
.670"
16.89 mm
.665"
16.76 mm
.660"
16.64 mm
.655"
16.51 mm
.650"
Bach Specs 1

1C,1.25, 1.5

2, 2C
Bach as Measured 1C 1.5C 3C 5C 7C
Sparx (Cornet) 2 3 4
Stage 1 Double Cup
Stomvi 0,7 0,8
(16.95)
0,9
1 2
Stork Vac 1.5
SM2
Vac 1 Vac 2 Vac 3
System Blue Extreme
Blue1 (deep)
Blue2 (medium)
Tottle 1B, 1C 1.5, 2 X60
Warburton 1 2 3 4 5
Denis Wick 1X 1 2
Yamaha 18C4 17C4 16C4 14C4 13B4 13C4
Zaja Mpcs
(Greg Black)
BP 6NY
Zottola 66

Table 2
16.43 - 15.75 mm

Size in mm / Inches 16.43 mm
.647"
16.38 mm
.645"
16.30 mm
.642"
16.26 mm
.640"
16.20 mm
.638"
16.13 mm
.635"
16.00 mm
.630"
15.90 mm
.626"
15.75 mm
.621"
Manufacturer
Bach Specs 2.5, 2.75 3, 3C 5C 6, 6C
7, 7C
8, 8C
8.5C
8.75 C

9, 9C
10, 10C

10.5C 10.75
11C
Bach as Measured 10.5C
Schilke 10A4
10B4
9C4 9 8A4 8E2 6A4A
7B4
5A4
Alliance 8
Best Brass Japan 3C 5C 7C, 7E 9C, 9E
Greg Black 5 Series 7 Series 10 Series
Blackburn 7
Breslmair G3A, Y31C 7D
Bush M N
Calichhio
Artist Series
Reid Porrello
J Thomas
Biviano
Saunders
Noday Carder
Thornburg
Trigg
Snooky
Callet 3 7 10
Al Cass 1-24 to
1-28

Curry 8.5 10.5
Endsley #1, #2
GR Mouthpieces 64 63 62
GR Haefner 7H
Giardinelli
10
Hammond 7
Jaz-Tec D E, G F
Jet Tone 10
Old Jet Tones 3C AH 5C 7C
Kanstal B8 G1,P6 B9,5C MF11,MF3,
G2,7C
BL2 BL3 BL4,B7
Kelly Lexan Vax
Klier (JK) 8 9 10
Laskey 40 30
Marcinkiewicz 11-15
Milashius B6 B7 B8
Miraphone TR07
TR11
Monette (Bb) B5, B6 B7 B8
Rudy Muck 13
Size in mm / Inches 16.43 mm
.647"
16.38 mm
.645"
16.30 mm
.642"
16.26 mm
.640"
16.20 mm
.638"
16.13 mm
.635"
16.00 mm
.630"
15.90 mm
.626"
15.75 mm
.621"
Bach Specs 2.5, 2.75 3, 3C 5C 6, 6C
7, 7C
8, 8C
8.5C
8.75 C

9, 9C
10, 10C

10.5C 10.75
11C
Bach as Measured 10.5C
Northern Brass 1,2,3,4,5
Parduba 1,2,3,4,5
Purviance (ID) 6.5 6 4.5 4
Reeves 41M 40
Sarad X, Y, Z Brahms
Signature Models Trudell

Candian Brass

Mic
Gillette

Rick
Braun

Bob
O'Donnell

Eric
Miyashiro

Mike Vax Al Hirt

Carl Fischer

Holton Heim Series
(15.85)

Stomvi 3 4 5 6 7
8
(15.85)
9
Stork Vac 4
SM6

Vac 5

Vac 7
Tottle 3 5 X25
System Blue Extreme Blue 2 Blue 3, WD X25
Warburton 6 7 8
Denis Wick 4
Yamaha 11 9C4 13A4A 6A4A
Zaja Mpc
(Greg Black)
NY2 NY5 NY3
NY1
Zottola 64

62

Table 3
15.7 - 15.0 mm

Size in mm / Inches 15.70 mm
.618"
15.65 mm
.616"
15.60 mm
.614"
15.20 mm
.598"
15.10 mm
.594"
15.00 mm
.590"
Manufacturer
Bach Specs 11.5C 11.75C 12, 12C 17, 17C
18, 18C
20C
Greg Black 12 Series
Callet 10S, DT10 12 17
Al Cass 2-24 to 2-28 3x1 to 3x5
(15.3)
Conn (Old) 9BN
Giardinelli 12 (15.5) 17
Kanstal BL4 CG10 10C
Rudy Muck 17
Purviance 2 1
Signature Models Pete Candoli
(15.44)
Groovin' High Bill Chase
Stomvi 10 11 (15.55)
12 (15.45)
13 (15.35)
14 (15.25)
15 (15.15)

16
17 (15.05)

18
Stork SM10
Denis Wick 5
Zaja Mpc
(Greg Black)
NY4

Table 1 is the largest, Table 3 the smallest — some sizes come in both small and large shank

Table 1
29.03 - 25.50 mm

Size in mm / Inches 29.03 mm
1.14"
28.52 mm
1.12"
27.68 mm
1.09"
27.00 mm
1.06"
26.75 mm
1.05"
26.25 mm
1.03"
26.00 mm
1.02"
25.50 mm
1.01"
Manufacturer
Bach Contra Bass (30.00) 1G 1.25G 1.5G 2G 3G 4G 5G
Schilke 6061 (29.3) 59, 58 57

14, 15 (17.1)

Symphony M3, M3d, F3, D3

13C4 13B

12, 52, E2

Symphony D52, M52

11
Alliance 2, 2a
Best Brass Japan 1C, 3E, 5E
Greg Black 0G (29.5)
1G (29.0)
1.25G 1.5 G (25.27) 2G 3G, 3C
Jerome Callet BD28 BD27.5 BD27 BD26.5
M & L
Conn 2CL
Curry 1 1 1/2 3
Doug Elliott 114
116 (29.5)
112 110 106 104 103 102 101100
Ferguson

Contra Bass (30.0)

LS Bass (old)

L Bass (old) V Bass (old)
Giardinelli 1G SymB 2G 3D
Giddings & Webster (Stainless Steel)

Chinook Sanders DH-100

Harwood NY-SNY-O

Nor'Easter (32.13) Karif Adriano Wilkins E-2

DHWS-S

DHWS-E

GW-103

EXL

E-1

Carbonaria

DJNV

GW102

NB-102

SA-100

TZ-103

GW103

DHWA-S

DHWA-E

Kadja Nakazawa

GW-101

NB-101

Boreas Euros

Ausman

GW-100

NB-100

Watters

GWC-101

GWC-100

Hammond 21 20
Size in mm / Inches 29.03 mm
1.14"
28.52 mm
1.12"
27.68 mm
1.09"
27.00 mm
1.06"
26.75 mm
1.05"
26.25 mm
1.03"
26.00 mm
1.02"
25.50 mm
1.01"
Bach Contra Bass (30.00) 1G 1.25G 1.5G 2G 3G 4G 5G
Schilke 6061 (29.3) 59, 58 57

14, 15 (17.1)

Symphony M3, M3d, F3, D3

13C4 13B

12, 52, E2

Symphony D52, M52

11
Josef Klier PO3 (29.50) PO2 (29.00) PO1 P1 P2 P3 P4
Laskey 95D (29.50) 93D (29.30) 85MD
LOUD (Stainless Steel) LM-35 (old) LM-20 (old) LM-47 (old) LM-48
MMP Brasswind Jazz Bass 1 Bass 1, Jazz Bass 2 & 3 Bass 2 Jazz 1
Marcinkiewicz CH105 (29.44) 1 1.5G 3 2G 5F, 6E, 7G
Steven Mead SM2 SM3, SM3.5
Miraphone PO11 PO9 PO15
Monette Bb BT-1 BT-2
Prime Slide C Rim A, B, D
Rims (1.175)
Signature Models

Doug Yeo (28.7)

Jim Martin

Jeff Reynolds

Ben van Dijk
B, BM (Thein)

George Roberts

Alessi 11.5 & 2

Phil Teele EBT2

Ernie Tack EBT3

Bill Rickenbach

Alessi 3, 3.5, 4
Size in mm / Inches 29.03 mm
1.14"
28.52 mm
1.12"
27.68 mm
1.09"
27.00 mm
1.06"
26.75 mm
1.05"
26.25 mm
1.03"
26.00 mm
1.02"
25.50 mm
1.01"
Bach Contra Bass (30.00) 1G 1.25G 1.5G 2G 3G 4G 5G
Schilke 6061 (29.3) 59, 58 57

14, 15 (17.1)

Symphony M3, M3d, F3, D3

13C4 13B

12, 52, E2

Symphony D52, M52

11
Stomvi 0.8 0.9 1 2 3
Stork BT-1, BT-1S BT-1.5, BT-1.5S
Warburton 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Denis Wick 0AL (27.42) 1AL (27.10) 2AL (27.00) 3AL
Yamaha 60, 60B 59 55, 58 53-54
Zottola 1.06A 1.03A

Table 2
26.00 - 24.40mm

Size in mm / Inches 26.00 mm
1.024"
25.75 mm
1.014"
25.50 mm
1.004"
25.40 mm
1.000"
25.00 mm
0.984"
24.75 mm
0.974"
24.50 mm
0.965"
24.40 mm
0.955"
Manufacturer
Bach 4G 5G & 6 6 1/2 6 3/4 7-11 12-14 1/2 15
Schilke 52E2
Symphony, D52*, D52, M52
52 51, 51B
Symphony, D51*, D51, M51
50 47C4 47B, 46D 4645 (.960) 45B, 44E4
Alliance 4, 3a 4a, 5 6, 6s 7 8
Best Brass Japan Ichi Go
Symphonic (L)
Virtuoso(L)
Kamiya
Trombone(S)
Trombone(L)
Kataoka
Virtuoso(S)
Virtuoso(L)
Greg Black 4C, 4G, 4.5C/G 5C, 5G 6C, 6G, 6 1/2 7C 11C 12C
Breslmair 158, 258, 358, 458 154, 254, 354 150, 250, 350, 550 145, 245, 345
Jerome Callet TD25.75 BD 25.4, TD 25.4 TM 24.75 BD 24.5, TM 24.5
Conn 4CL Remington (25.65)
5CL
10CL 3 (25.15) 13CL (24.86) 15CL
Curry 4.5 5 6 7, 11 12
DEG AW8
Doug Elliott 102 101 (25.65) 100 98, 99 97 96
Endsley #1 #2
Ferguson 1 Tenor NF11
Giardinelli 3G Sym G&T SymAL 4D 5D 6M
Giddings & Webster (GW)

SA-100

NB-102

GW-100

DJNV

Carbonaria

EXL

E-1

NB-101

GW-101

Kadja

Nakazawa

GWC-101

Euros

Boreas

Sonny

Ausman

GWC-100

NB-100

GB-100

Harry Watters

Barber Chubasco

Chocolatero

Bacchus

Hammond 11 12 13 14
JetTone STS STM, STD
Josef Klier (JK) P5 P6 P7 P8 P9 P10
Size in mm / Inches 26.00 mm
1.024"
25.75 mm
1.014"
25.50 mm
1.004"
25.40 mm
1.000"
25.00 mm
0.984"
24.75 mm
0.974"
24.50 mm
0.965"
24.40 mm
0.955"
Bach 4G 5G, 6 6 1/2 6 3/4 7-11 12-14 1/2 15
Laskey 59D 57D 54M 50C 46C
LOUD LM-27 LM-52, LM-50 LM-60
MMP Brasswind 8,8H, 9, 9B 7G

10, 11

Jazz, 4, 5

12, 15

Jazz 2, 3, 7

Marcinkiewicz 8 5G, 5J 9, 8H, 6.5AL 10,11, 11C 12 15
Miraphone BT11 BT07BT09 BT06, BT14, BT15, BT17, BT18, PO13 BT13 BT03, BT05, PO05
Steven Mead SM4SMB4 SMB6 SMB9
Monette TT-4 TT-5 TS-6 TS-11
Rudy Muck 26MTB
Parduba 5 4.5 3.5 (24.63), 4 3 2.5
Sarad All Cups
X, Y, or Z Rim
Brahms Model
Signature Models

Alessi 5, 5.5, 6 (25.95)

Alessi Alto A-3

Bob Stroup 9B

Greg Woll 5GW

Benge Marcellus

Byron Peebles ET1

Peter Sullivan

Canadian Brass Gene Watts

Jiggs Whigham ET1.7 (25.1)

Alain Trudel (25.2)

Scott Bliege (25.2)

Barry Green Solo (25.15)

175 JW Jiggs Whigham

JJ Johnson by Giardinelli

Ian McDougall ET2

Charlie Loper ET3

Frank Holton (24.6)

Urbie Green (Jet-Tone) All Cup Depths

Lloyd Ulyate ET4

Frank Rosolino
Size in mm / Inches 26.00 mm
1.024"
25.75 mm
1.014"
25.50 mm
1.004"
25.40 mm
1.000"
25.00 mm
0.984"
24.75 mm
0.974"
24.50 mm
0.965"
24.40 mm
0.955"
Bach 4G 5G, 6 6 1/2 6 3/4 7-11 12-14 1/2 15
Stomvi 4 58330 68335 7 8
Stork BT4 T1 BT5 (25.2), BT6 T2 T3
System Blue Extreme System Blue Euph (LS) System Blue Bari (SS)
Warburton 8 9 10 11 12 13
Denis Wick 4AL, 4ABL, 4BL, 4BS 5AL, 5ABL, 5BL, 5BS 4.5AL (25.85) 51, 6AL, 6BL, 6BS, 7CS9BL, 9BS, 10CS 12CS
Zottola 99A & B
1.00A
96A & B

Table 3
24.30 - 22.5 mm

Size in mm 24.30 mm 24.20 mm 24.00 mm 23.9 mm 23.50 mm 23.25 mm 23.00 mm 22.5 mm
Manufacturer
Bach 17-18 19 22
Schilke 43A 42 42B 40
Jerome Callet TM24 TM23.5 TS22.5
Doug Elliott 95(24.1) 94
JosefKlier (JK) P12
Laskey 42C
Rudy Muck 23MTB 25MTB
Parduba 2
Signature Models David Steinmeyer ET7
Stomvi 9 8350 (24.12) 10
Warburton 14 15
Zottola 93
A&B

Table 1
31 - 29.5 mm

Size in mm / Inches 31.00 mm
1.220"
30.50 mm
1.201"
30.00 mm
1.181"
29.50 mm
1.161"
Manufacturer
Bach 25 30E 32E
Alliance     5P  
Conn 25
Giddings & Webster GW Churada
Kelly 25
Josef Klier (JK) T7 T8 T9
Miraphone TU05 TU03
Monette
Peratucci PT-24+
Bruno Tilz M4, M15
A1, B1
T1
25
Denis Wick 4 5
Yamaha 65 64

Table 2
32.75 - 31.25 mm

Size in mm / Inches 32.75 mm
1.289"
32.50 mm
1.280"
32.25 mm
1.270"
32.00 mm
1.260"
31.75 mm
1.250"
31.50 mm
1.240"
31.25 mm
1.230"
Manufacturer
Bach 12 18 22 24AW
Alliance H1, 4, 4W, Solo H2 3, 3a
Conn Helleberg 18 24AW
Curry 128 126 124
Doug Elliott TU129 TU128 TU126
Mike Finn MF1, MF2,
MF4
Giddings & Webster GW Taku
Williwaw
Diablo
Matanuska
Bora
Griego 325D
325XD
320D
320XD
315D
315XD
JC Custom (Brazil) 33 Supreme 32.2 Summit 32 Ultra
32 Harmonic
32 Supreme
Jet Tone Jet UH
Kelly 18 24AW
Josef Klier (JK) T4 T5 T6
Laskey 28
LOUD LM-6
LM-7
LM-5 LM-15
Marcinkiewicz 18 ST3, ST4, 24AW 25
Miraphone TU25 TU23
(Old C4)
TU11, TU19,
TU21, TU39
(Old C3)
TU09 TU15
TU17
Peratucci PT-32
PT-34
PT-20F
PT-30
PT-20
Schilke 69C4 67 62, SH 66
Signature Models

Roger Bobo Solo
(Yamaha)

Arnold Jacobs Solo
(Kelly)

Winston Morris
(Miraphone)
Arnold Jacobs Std
(Kelly)
Bruno Tilz M2, M8,
M12, M13,
M17, M23,
MS25, M29,
M30
M3, M6,
M7, M9,
M11, M25,
M31, A2,
B2, T2,
C2, 18,
M5, M16,
M18, 22,
24W, 24AW
Denis Wick 1 2 3
Yamaha 68B 67, 67C4 66D4 66, 66B